I agree with Eric.. Since no matter how high you go in Vue, I was never happy with the final renders, most of the time I just do a final at a large size and then shrink it down... It does a nice job that is not perfect, but then again, if after 10-12 hours I'm still not happy, I'm not going to go crazy with it either... :) But thanks a lot for these results Sittingblue, there are really very informational... Actually, this is the kind of stuff we should be getting from E-on, but we are getting from good people such as yourself.. :)