Amen, amen and again, amen, Wdupre. Clear, concise and straight to the heart of the matter, which goes far deeper than M2 and Tailor : "It distresses me deeply your stand on outside vendors marketing clothing that is designed to conform precisely with your figures, as this is the biggest headache which poser users struggle with. " That is precisely what a lot us have been trying desperately to express lately - but never with such clarity as you. We hope we're wrong in our interpretation of the DAZ stand - but only DAZ can tell us that. DAZ is welcome to ignore all the other verbose threads on this matter, including my own, if they just answer this one with the same clarity and thoughtfulness as you have put into this.