Good, Tim's here smile. I don't do 'people' (as opposed to Windows-well, lame joke anyhow :>( ) just clothes. That's why I like this too, Marge. Sort of standing over someone's shoulder kind of thing. I understand the principle since I've made a lot of other textures-mainly clothes and some animals, but haven't taken the plunge on facial textures. For one thing, I still haven't found any pictures that would work--I'm still wondering where everyone found that Winona Ryder one. However, I just got a new Kodak 280zoom digital camera this week so I've been debating the hows of using it for this. Diane B