Bikermouse, I think you'll find that lmckenzie is referring to the up and coming Siggraph show where some people believe that Poser5 will be aired. I'm inclined to think not, but CL "might" release some previews of the new version and the prediction is that everyone is going to be talking about Poser 5 and not the issue with Daz. He's probably right, except that some people will still be talking about it, just not as loudly or in threads that climb into 3 figures rapidly. :)