Agreed totally with Ironbear and some from Ookami. I know, we're digressing from the purpose of this thread. I apologise for that as I feel partly responsible for it. Simple fact is though. Anyone who bought Mike1 and Vickie1 loved them after playing around for a while. When Mike 2 and Vickie 2 hit the market people shot off to buy them. Those who had the models recommended them highly to other users. Any reference I see in this and other forums asking about Mike and Vickie carries several promotional comments suggesting the purchase of Vic2 and Mike2 instead of the first couple - just because of the extra morphs and partly because of the inclusion of backwards compatibility in the P4 versions. So sales on version 1 of the mill figures logically should have dropped through the floor by now making the point of the whole argument rather moot. I don't know that I'd stop buying from Daz, but it is guaranteed that I will very very carefully consider WHAT I buy from them. Having said that, I really don't spend enough money to bother anyone if I stop. :)