questor: o.k. I will. An ignore ronknights button?(he-he) that's the ticket. Don't get me wrong, DAZ is no hero in this, but I'd rather spend my "Renderosity Time" constructively - I did speak out on this topic, a view that somewhat supports Ron's view in this case. I don't need to restate my viewpoint every day or so . . . bikermouse wanders off, trying to think of something constructive to do, wondering what Little Dragon et al are up to, while a song keeps playing somewhere in the background," . . . Raindrops keep falling on my head,but that does'nt mean . . ." .