Well, I think people know where I stand on the issue of rather we should have to use the encoding procedure or not. If people aren't clear I'll be happy to say so after they've reread my posts, and read the implied meaning :) But, since at this point they aren't changing their position ... As for the tool, this will actually possibly replace the original Mover and work for OBJs as well. So rather than become just another tool, I think it may have the potential of becoming like Mover+. It does what Mover did and more. Or at least that's the goal :) -- Whew, I'm glad to hear it isn't the process. Which would have been really odd since it would have been the only problem with it ;) Yeah Dreamweaver is a pain sometimes, using XM? Been looking into it myself. Tom