Depakotez Having seen a little of what MartinC is currently working on, I'm not convinced that this tool will replace Mover or become Mover+, but an alternative. It's always good to have alternatives. Heh, listen to me, a person who doesn't want one thing saying it's good to have two things. LOL Seriously though it is good what you're doing, I just find it hard swallowing someone elses boot when they shove it down my throat. I usually try to bite off the foot and get some protein with the leather. :) No, I haven't sprung for XM yet, this was version 4. I don't help develop websites anymore so haven't really seen the need to shell out for the upgrade. Ajax. I saw that, and yes, it is possible that P5 will make a lot of P4 stuff obsolete. But there's a hell of a lot of P4 stuff around and it's not likely to make Vic and Mike obsolete unless CL have found a new supplier of humanoid models, even then there's too much money invested in Vic and Mike to simply ditch them, tempting though that may be. Exciting stuff nonetheless. Nice of Kupa to post that thread as a taster and lighten the atmosphere, I just hope people accept what he's showing and don't badger him with thousands of endless questions. He's working a tension reliever, not a promotion. LOL