mfmsteinemmmeffffklffmmmfffphhg Ooops...darn duct tape... I'm with you, Carolly, they need to add flavor to this stuff. Kate (who is being so really really really good that hubby is starting to worry about me... he keeps muttering stuff like "ok, who are you and what did you do with my REAL wife?") P.S. Hey Steve & Karen, if you ever need someone with a really messed up system to test things on... hint hint ;-)