I think there is really no need to put in the wish list a faster renderer Yves, because this was always an important point for e-on to make eache version faster:-) Comparing Vue with cinema or carrara is just not fair. Makes me laugh. Why are you using Vue if it is so "bad"? Aren't there features you cannot find in cinema and other softs? The press release (Lynn Frederick's post), if you want to read it again, is HERE Guitta