OK, gang thanks and I guess I was not really clear about what I ment. So heres try 2.LOL I am using Vue 4.06 and am rendering in the final, never tryed the Best or Ultra. But then again that picture took 2hrs just to render, so figured that any higher setting would make it take longer. Ok now that Eric was so cool as to tell me the best settings I will try them, Thanks Audity for the Great link and Will read it right after I finish posting this. Oh and the compreshion is 100% is that wrong??