Sounds like they're planning a two-tiered upgrade pricing, one for Poser 4 owners and one for Poser3 (and earlier?). So folks who have just upgraded will make up part of the P4 cost. Plus, their transition to P5 will likely benefit from several months of P4 experience, which can teach you a lot. Bet they won't regret moving to P4 now :-) Elisa