thanks, thip...for being clear. i was out of town for a couple days....and, my little v2 wardrobe counts alot, to me. because i worked hard in my freetime to create it. why did chad's remarks not have a thread of their own? why is it still more legal to use morph manager to transfer all v2's or m2's tot he lores versions...or just to v1 and m1, and sell using objaction mover? so many questions...so glad daz isn't dying to possess my little poppi millenium wardrobe, it i can get the time to finish it..... ron...i really don't think they wanted to steal your freestuff items, either. keep good, Poppi :*)