Jim, I thought the very same thing. But then I went and bought 2 products today. I guess because I waited so excited for Carrara to come out last year and I had been waiting almost a year for that. What a disappointment(at lest to me, that it still was so much like Raydream) and I couldn't do one damn thing in that program. I wanted it for it's so high call rendering. :O). It sure sounds like poser 5 is a long way off, so if I see something great, I'll buy it. I probaby won't be a ble to figure out the new poser for a long time. :O) Old and computer dumb!

Love is Grandchildren.