I think L.D. hit the nail on the head - again. And 'til we get to peek under the hood at P5, we don't know that transmapping and modeling will become passe. I've tried to do both myself with limited sucess but don't have the patience for more than a casual project while trying to learn everything. I think that transmapping has become an art form unto itself, and will probably last a while longer. I don't think that modeling will change much except to add dimensions such as gravity and collision stuff (I'd guess that the wavefront obj format will still be used. - it's very versitile. there's alot more to it than we use for poser.) Once we are looking at P5 first hand it probably won't be as mysterious or threatening as it seems today. - good modeling, bikermouse