Kupa has made mention a number of times about a very specific business model they are using. I don't think he gave a preview on a wim (or distraction). He obviously has to know what the effect a P5 announcement has on their P4 sales and from what I've heard they can't go long without income. So, my guess is it will be sooner rather than later. If not, it may turn out to be never. Jim, If it's good people will want it. The "old fashioned" way will be in vogue for quite some time.