A good rule of thumb on any new [to the user] graphics program, wether Bryce, Poser, Vue, Rhino or whatever.... allow six months of learning the basics and working with the basics til they start to make sense and one learns the ins and outs, then allow another six months for them to become second nature to where you don't have to really think about it untill you have to figure out something you've never done before. You can shorten that a bit by doing what I call "total immersion": whre you do nothing else but work in that prog til it "clicks", but very few people have the free time to do that. Reasonably though... Poser 4 is a complex program. The documentation in not well written, what little documentation there is doesn't explain things well, and all too much of learning things like transmapping, posing, the best ways to set up scenes and lighting and renders are trial and error, which is frustrating. If you keep at it though, it does click.

"I am a good person now and it feels... well, pretty much the same as I felt before (except that the headaches have gone away now that I'm not wearing control top pantyhose on my head anymore)"

• Monkeysmell