Jim, I very much doubt that P5's hair is going to supersede transmapped hair any time soon. That spiky business is going to be useful for - yes, spiky hairstyles. But long flowing stuff and so on, no. P5.5 or P6 maybe. Like your hairstyles - imagine the poly count and the processor load if done that way! Also, new goodies like that tend to take a while to settle into something really useful. So I intend to go on buying stuff I need/like for some time yet. I spent a bloody fortune at DAZ during the sale and am in the process of doing a buying round right now around the other sites - Rosity, BBay, Thrall, RDNA. And of course I have my PWFW subscription. And Vicki I have down to a fine art now, so it's going to take a LOT of convincing for me to believe that a default character (Posette5?) is going to be more usable until there are a zillion morphs and stuff for her. And Mike is light years ahead of any other male ever. And if the clothing vendors do indeed upgrade their existing stuff to P5 level at a really good price/even free for previous owners, well, there we go. We're deep in it now with some fine characters and stuff, so let's just keep on truckin'. What were you thinking of doing hairwise by the way? :] FishNose