Well, I don't pretend to know much about all the technical discussions. And maybe not the business end of it, either. But generally, software manufacturers don't like to alienate 3rd party providers. There almost always is a 3rd party "hook" there to be used. In this case, I don't know what it might be, but as to the hair thingie...heck, people make poses and sell them. There is a market for it because some people are more artistic and talented than others...not to mention the ease of "grabbing" a pose and making a few adjustments. Now, maybe I'm completely wrong, but isn't it possible the hair thingie in P5 will be sort of like that? Meaning, yes, one can do it, but will they have the talent that all the renown hair makers will have at it? How long a process is it? Etc. If "P4" hair is still a useable item, perhaps it will be an equitable choice as to "growing" your own hair. Just posting ideas...but since I don't earn a living, I certainly can't look at it from the perspective of those who do. Couple more items: Jim, I don't think anyone would refer to you as a MGB. I certainly never felt it nor saw it mentioned. You sell stuff and give away stuff. That's a nice blend for any vendor to possess. Curious, pardon any pun, but, Jim, but how will this hurt Curious Labs so much. I guess I'm missing something. I would gather, just as other vendors here wonder about, that it would hurt DAZ the most if it was going to hurt 3rd party vendors. BTW, I've heard a rumor that DAZ and CL don't get along very well...and that some other company is making the P5 figures instead of DAZ...that DAZ wasn't even approached...but that's just a rumor I heard. IF, if Wolf359's fears are a real concern, then it may be that THIS will create the need for 3rd party hair. At any rate, in my best Clinton voice, "I feel your pain", Jim. As a "way out their" idea, ever think of just sending an email to CL, as a vendor, and see if they can/will tell you what impact it may have on people like you? Heck, all they can do is ignore you. But, I think they'd want to answer and not piss a bunch of vendors off by "bushwhacking" them upon release. Just a feeble thought.