Hummmm...interesting thread. I had to go out of town, and the Poser 5 threads were posted while i was gone. i didn't click on any of the links...as i furiously tried to catch up on all i had missed...but, i did notice one thing....the guy, that Kupa used as an example of what was comin' down the pipes in P5...well, he looked an awful lot like the dork, if you pardon the expression. I hate long render times...so, will stick with transmapped hair...just like i use vicki one for renders....transferring only the morphs i am using to make a figure in v2 to her, with morph master....sorry...i just don't use alot of the superheroine, fairy, and other morphs in v2...same with michael2...i use him to create a figure...transfer morphs to mike 1, and am good to go. i probably won't even spring for poser 5 until i see if it is really cool, or, like bryce five...just a bunch of stuff that makes render times longer. (yeah, i did get it, though.) i think there are always those who MUST HAVE something just because it is new. first, we don't know the when of it...second...we don't know the price of it....third...we don't know the system requirements of it....fourth...we haven't seen it in action...except in promos...and, i DO think that guy is the DORK!!! i am saving my money. i am saving my money for a new computer. i am saving my money for maya...yeah, right...but, it is a reason to save. poser 5 will come along. either it will impress me, or, it won't. i will end up getting it at some point...but, i am not standing in line to give it a test run. bryce 5 was a disappointment.