I definitely don't see you or any other folk that sell their items as MGB. There's a lot of hard work that goes into what you folk make. And if it hasn't been said lately, the free stuff that is provided..it's more appreciated than you can ever imagine. I'm not exactly rich, so whenever poser 5 comes out, it's a pretty sure bet that I won't be investing in it right away which means that I will still be needing hair and clothing, and..etc etc for poser 4. From what I understood from the one thread, P4 models will still be working in Poser 5. This means to me, that if I buy things now, they will still be useable with the newer version. Even if Poser 5 has hair items and such, we still like varity :)