wolf...many traditional high end 3d artists look down on poser, in the first place. i think that poser knows its clientele....and will create for them. me, i want maya....no new poser can fill those boots. period. cooper is smarter than to try and make a 2nd or third rate imitation to appeal to those of us who would love maya. he is more likely than not smart enough to realize that poser is used by an ever growing cottage industry, and, work from there.