thanks for all the feedback. you stopped me from putting up my poser 4 software on an auction site. next question on my mind: where can I get a gargantuan collection of p4 clothing? it would take me a whole lot of web surfing to collect it on my own. next question: i printed out the image on www.deesden.com/images/bellydancerM.jpg, because it had the necessary transparent cloth in the upper left model (blue/green outfit). where can i get the required file or how do i make the blue cloth transparent, like that?