Thanks Jeff I have been "whitlin" away at the pz3 to make it more like my friend-added quite afew more MT's-and made a texture with her real face. I am getting closer-a ways to go. I alloted 175 MB of RAM to P4 V Beta 1.17 and after several renders and reshaping-I tried adding texture and transmaps to the hair-Boom! Outta memory-ByeBye! Now I need to find the Kozbura hair! Thanks again. Eric Walters