James...I think you are missing the obvious! Don't look at the victorian dress the way it is displayed by steve shanks. A texture makes a whole lot of difference...check it here looking a lot more like what you need! From Victorian to Medieval.. :o) http://members.xoom.com/renapd77/Textures7.htm All you need is a transmap to make the neckline the way you wish it to be and to paint the dress with a light cloth color & just add the belt & ornaments at the right places. If I didn't have to take my son to the hospital for a checkup I'd give it a shot myself right away! Oh..maybe later tonight! :o) renapd

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