TS - yes, I was describing the effect on targetGeom channels - and I think valueParms. If I set the TS of a character head morph to 0.5, the morph will jump from 0 to 1 and back as I turn the dial. For rotations, it needs to do what it is set to do, for targetGeom there seems to be an element of "We know better than you, what you want." to it. On rotations = with a JCJ group, I set the TS to 0.5 to get fine control, but the dial only shows whole numbers - it blinks, but does not show the increment. The male figures have two separate hip groups - with and aithout - The menu genitals switch determines which of the two.