You know....when i read the thread on revamping the mover for use with daz figures, i kind of wondered where your voice was in all of this. damn...that's just slimey, in my book. add that to changing the eula, after the fact, and demanding that we submit our own original meshes...i am not talking tailor, here...nor, am i even talking the "contour" tool in rhino...i'm talking about hand drawn meshes, made to fit the m2 figures.... you're right...you do own the code to the mover. and, guess what else...i don't think daz can own a body shape. period. they should just back down, and settle for the cut of the pie that they already have. demanding all the pie is gonna bring them down, i think. i am disgusted. Pop...Pop...Poppi!!!