AgentSmith: Suprised EricofSD hasn't chimed in on the "quasi-flare effects" as he wrote a tut on the subject using Bryce primatives. http://www.annsartgallery.com/suntut.html was that the one? seems like there was another one out there. Maybe something to do with "Vile's Telescope". electroglyph: The three rings is the way I've heard it described. A few years ago the popular notion was that the Minoean(sp?) Culture was derived from that of Atlantis. Atlantis was assumed at that time to be one of the islands off the coast of Greece. Recent discoveries perport to have found submerged roadways near Cuba that may have been associated with Atlantis.