I don't know about the other programs you mentioned, but Vue does it all. All you do is save your Poser figures, scene, what-ever as a PZ3, and import it into Vue. Everything is there, objects/figures/props, and all the textures. Just like Bryce, Vue takes a long time to render, I don't think there is anyway around that one. As far as your computer crashing, Vue has updated it's patches several times since the release of the program, so possibly, it would have remedied this? I don't know if you like to enter contests or not, but I think one of the ones at PoserPros is giving away a copy of Vue as a prize.........You may want to consider trying that. What do you have to lose, and you get a $10.00 Daz gift certificate just for entering? Go to the contest forum for more info. (: Take care and I am sorry I couldn't be more help. Genny