Heheh. My desktop pic this week is a graphic from Bungie Software of... guess what soon to be released game? Oni. Yeah, the only way I can learn how to model is to try and copy something, and Konoko's armor was as good as anything else. I only have a picture of her from the waist up. I checked out the pic you mentioned and absolutely hate the rest of her outfit, so I guess the resemblence will have to stop here. I used the P4 nude female body parts as templates and built the armor around them in Ray Dream Studio. I can't believe I'm still using RDS after all this time. It's more frustrating than ever, but I know it pretty well and I don't have the dough for anything else yet. I was in the process of converting all my RDS models to Poser, when I got sidetracked into this armor thing. I had to make a smaller breast morph for the catsuit and a morph for the chest armor, both of which were wonderful learning experiences (sarcasm, slow, dripping sarcasasm). I do like the models, though, and have high hopes for this character. I wonder if it will ever be finished. --ratta