confusion I have "done well"? I did NOT update to 4.1 that e-on just announced... I have vue 4.01-something... I don't think the very first update that e-on put out for vue 4 is what they are announcing now. As I was trying to explain, I need to find the exact version string of numbers and post that to be clear on which patch I am using. I have seen so many problems with patches and updates, that I will not go through all the adjustments needed to patch up... and take the chance that my particular version's reaction to the patch(s) would be favorable... SO I am staying with the "if it isn't broke, don't fix it" school of thought, and continuing to enjoy vue more than any other program! :) Lyne

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!