WELL, IB, now I know why California is proposing the new law they are...for people like you...well, actually not, since you aren't filling their landfills...grin. DEC Alpha, huh? Jeez! I've finally gotten over that "it MAY be needed" sometime problem...and only have one small cupboard filled now...pats self on back for getting rid of digital packrat syndrome....hehe. I bet it looks something like the one of the pictures of the artist of the month...the robot graveyard thingie...which is REALLY nice.