WiNC: About the fact Bobbie25 was selling CL and other, we've already sent to the Admins the copy of the CL ELECTRONIC NOTICE OF COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT, that was the reason why the store of the site was tracked down. We can't obiouvsly post it in public without their prior written permission. I can only post the Copyright Enforcement Agent comments under the DMCA about the Bobbie25 3D Underground site Disclaimer (Agent comments between the [ ]) : Disclaimer WARNING: The creators of this site take no responsibility or liability for anything that occusr as a result of reading or downloading information within this website.This website does not host any software!It merely indexes the content of other websites.Also note that 3D Under Ground's views and content in no way reflect the views or belies of the service provider,and the service provider is not responsible for any content on these pages. [I didn't realize that selling pirated software now constitutes "indexing" the content of other websites.] Copyright Status: 3D Under Ground retains a nonexclusive, royalty-free licence to publish and reproduce it's contents, and allows others to do so, for reference purposes only. These documents may be freely distributed and must only be used for non-commercial, scientific and educational purposes. Commercial use of the documents available on this server are protected under the U.S. and Foreign Copyright Laws.Individual documents on this server may have different copyright conditions,and may be noted as such. [The "3D Under Ground" does NOT hold copyrights to Poser 4 (or any other software listed for sale on the site), much less do they have any right to publish or reproduce the software, for "reference purposes" or otherwise.] Disclaimer of Endorsement: Reference herin to any specific commercial produc, process, or service by trade name, trademark, manufacturer, or othrwise, does not necessarily constitute or imply its endorsement, recommendation, or favouring by 3D Under Ground. The views and opinions of authors expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of 3D Under Ground, and shall not be used for advertising or product endorsement purposes. Disclaimer of Liability: With respect to documents available from this server, neither 3D Under Ground nor it's creators, make any warranty, express or implied, including the warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose, or assume any legal liability or responsibility for the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information, apparatus, product, or process disclosed, or represent that it's use would not infringe privately owned rights. Notice: Information on this server resides on a computer system paid for by 3D Under Ground. The use of this system may be, and is, monitored for computer security purposes. Any unauthorized access to this system is prohibited and is subject to criminal and civil penalties under Federal Laws including but not limited to Public laws 83-703 and 99-474. [A publicly accessible web site is not considered to be a "private server" and PL 83-703 and 99-474 have no applicability to access - at least according to the United States Attorney and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.] Also Note: For controversial reasons, if you are affiliated with any government, ANTI-Piracy group or any other related group, or were formerly a worker of one you CANNOT enter and view this web site, cannot acess any of its files and you cannot view any of the HTML files. If you enter this site you are not agreeing to these terms and you are violating code 431.322.12 of the Internet Privacy Act signed by Bill Clinton in 1995 and that means that you CANNOT threaten our ISP(s) or any person(s) or company storing these files, and cannot prosecute any person(s) affiliated with this page which includes family, friends or individuals who run or enter this web site. [Again, the "Bill Clinton says you can't see me or sue me" disclaimer has no applicability to a PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE web site. The presence of this disclaimer is generally considered to be both a "red flag" and a "welcome mat" for agencies such as ours.] By continuing to view and read the documents within this site, you are expressly and impliedly agreeing to all terms stated above, and affirm that you are in compliance with all federal, state and local laws concerning the content of this site. Unless otherwise indicated, the information in this transmittal is CONFIDENTIAL and intended only for the recipient listed above. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply mail.