You all did great to help me....and I thank you all, Talmidben had the exact problem nailed, correctly, and thewanderer also, thanks again for the assistance, now I got a shark.....dom, dom, dom, dom, dom, dom, dom, dom, dom, ahhhhhhhhhh hey remember this......ding dong, who's there, Candygram,.....what who....tellegram.....who....ahhhhh land shark....LOL