Veth...I sent some messages to you but no responses...guess you're in different places now. I did a little exersize and converted the P3 Vethril chest to P4...it's an exact replica, though I did fix some of the original "morph-collision" problems in it. Send me a good email addy if you'd like to take a look at it...thou I do see you have her up to speed now! Foxhollow