wadams9 opened this issue on Jul 15, 2002 ยท 19 posts
wadams9 posted Fri, 19 July 2002 at 8:38 PM
Okay, I continue to research head-height proportionality, and here's what I learn: Metacreations uses heads as a base proportion for constructing figures because that's what most art teachers have traditionally done. And although Posette's "ideal height" of 8 heads doesn't have much to do with women in the real world, it's not out of line with women in illustrations. Here's a quote from John Adkins Richardson's COMPLETE BOOK OF CARTOONING (Prentice-Hall, 1977, and a terrific book of this kind, by the way): "The average man or woman is about 7 1/2 heads tall, in a proportion first noted by the Greek sculptor Polycleitus (active circa 450-420 B.C.) who worked out a canon of ideal proportions of which only rudiments have come down to us. Later Greek sculptors, notably Praxiteles (active circa 370-330 B.C.) and his near contemporary Lysippus, lightened the proportion to 8 heads. By the time of Michaelangelo (1475-1564) the ideal proportion for a male figure was 8 1/2 heads, a proportion rare among living men but extremely impressive in statuary. Because of its applications it came to be known as the 'heroic proportion.' . . . [M]ost adventure heroes in the comic pages are 8 or 8 1/2 heads tall." (The big exception is Prince Valiant, at 7 1/2 heads tall, and if you look at those classic strips -- based on the more realistic illustration-style of, say, Howard Pyle, rather than on comic-strip norms -- you'll see how different the proportions of all Hal Foster's characters look compared to those in a contemporary comic.) So . . . what does it all mean? I'd say Metacreations is not so far out of line using 8 heads for Posette's ideal proportion, now that we know their "ideal height" is really a "heroic proportion" for a figure a few inches taller than average height. We are all used to seeing this proportion in illustrations, so much so that real proportions can seem wrong on the page. (I have to admit that I never saw anything out of proportion in Posette until we started this discussion.) Most of us use Poser for illustration purposes, so maybe Metacreations was right on the money with 8 heads. On the other hand, everything we've developed so far in this thread confirms me in my long-held gut opinion that the "fashion-model" version of Posette is really a "basketball-player" or "glandular-case" version. It is Vickie who is the real fashion-model height, and a pretty tall model at that. I'll have one more comment on this when I finish collating all the "real-world" heights of the Poser characters. Which I can finally do now -- thanks, once again, to the great responses I got to my original question.