You know, not to suggest that this is happening in this thread, but I've seen more warez visitors in the last few months than I have in the several years that I've been a member. I guess the radar is up and we just want to be comfortable in who we are chatting with. If you go to pages 133-135 in the B4 manual and want to quote something that isn't clear to you, or somewhere around page 89 of the B5 manual, that helps put us at ease.