Bloodsong is right, nearly all my clothes that I use on my fantasy characters are just standard P4 with bump maps, textures and trans maps - see my post "Elf in Winter" a few pages back... Would love to see Drizzt when he is finished, I've been working on a dark elf too, but I can't get the skin tones right. Interested to see want you come up with. all the best, Dal