I'd liked to weigh in on this one. Like bound4doom,I have some serious IT credentials, but in other areas. Following my hearts desire and becoming a website developer led me to 3D modeling which has become my passion over the last few years. Admittedly, there have been times when I've asked a question before reading my Bryce books, but I try not to. I do this because I am impatient for results. Still, I need to be reminded to "RTFM" on occasion, so I'm not offended when someone tells me that. I'm not really new to Bryce or Poser. I just don't get to play with them as often as I'd like. (You want that website up when?!?) Since I run into warez kiddies in other areas on the web, I too, love drop-kicking them. Perhaps new folks could be referred to the appropriate tutorial instead. There are tons of these things out there, some of which are exceptional and include illustrations.