Do you have a wife? A family? Anyone you care about? If so you must delete the poser prgramme from your hard drive, burn the book and the Cds and get your life back. It's too late for me - I've had Poser for a couple of months now. The wife has turned to drink, the children are asking "who is that stranger living upstairs?" Yesterday, the dog bit me. But I no longer care - once I hit the 'render' button, the rush comes over me and all else is forgotten. Don't listen to these pushers - they are only trying to hook you in. RUN... RUN NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. (This message has been brought to you curtesy of the hangover from half a bottle of brandy drunk while trying to get 'just the right lighting effect')