LOL @ Stormrage... it happens a lot. Thanks for letting me know this post was here... GODZILLA, as I have said in my emails to you, I don't really understand what you are asking. Is there possibly a japanese person around that can help? Question 1: Does the "Wind Swept Hair (L)" model work? Question 2: What happens if you load the "Wind Swept Hair (F) model on its own? Question 3: Are there any .RSR files in the "/runtime/geometries/dark whisper/" directory? If there are - please delete them. Thanks for the compliments on the hair guys (and girls? ;-)) cheers, d