SewerRat, I met someone at a gaming convention once who said he'd fought a battle between his brother's army and his own (I think one was either 40K or Fantasy Chaos, the other either High Elves or Eldar - I don't remember which was which), one from 40,000 the other from Fantasy Battles and the Fantasy army won hands down due to the presence Magic had in the battle (a month later the expansion for the FULL psyker and vehicle rules was released; the ending MIGHT have been different then).