How much is Poser 4 going for now (or at least before the announcement?) I'm going to say that the upgrade price will be at least $550 - that, which is probably going to put it at least $350, ne? Yowie. I could probably afford that, but I'm just not sure I want to bother. I upgraded to Poser 4 two years after it came out because it was difficult to make my story characters and their outfits in Poser 3. I'm pretty happy with the results I get from 4, a good chunk of the stuff features shown for Poser 5 I probably wouldn't use since I avoid photo-realism for most projects as a stylistic choice, and the simple fact is that I think the chance of my system effectively running it around much like those of a snowball's in hell. Even a hardware upgrade there would only help so much, since I'm still on Windows 98 and haven't found an acceptable OS upgrade. Well, to sum up my self-pitying whining, I just don't think it'll be worth it to me for a year or two at least. When the majority of the freestuff section won't work for me anymore.