As a 3D Graphics hobbiest I will have to wait and see if I can afford the upgrade when it comes out. I have hopes that I hope I will eventually find a commercial market for my Poser pictures in magazines or other venues, but that may yet be some time in the future. I have put off upgrading my Carrara 1.2 to the new version because I have been waiting with anticipation the new Poser 5.0 release. An upgrade price of 1/2 the full version price would seem fair to me. What I'm hoping is that Pro Pack's features will be rolled into the new version, it would be worth the additional price of the upgrade. If everyone who is a Pro Pack user looks at the total cost of Poser 4 with Pro Pack, the prices quoted above do seem to me "in the Poser tradition." I also think it would be a mistake for CL to release a new Pro Pack add on, the new version should be more inclusive without the need to purchase more and more add ons to add functionality which should have existed in the first place. I'd like to see more compatibility with other 3D programs as well. The only other thing I'd like to say is that CL has to remember what their primary market is. Because of the snobbery in the 3D industry, I have serious doubts in computer graphics professionals will every fully embrace it the way they embraced Maya and Lightwave (see past threads for the debate on this). I think the bobbiest, at least for now, is the primary market and if the price is too high many people (including myself)in this category simply will not be able to afford to buy it. That being said my only real fear is that DAZ and other vendors won't offer Poser 4 users any more products because of incompatibilities between the new and old versions.