I wonder which of you who are touting poser 5 and saying that it will be worth the price because you've seen what it does is going to get a free copy for beta testing? Just wondering. There are a lot of people here who won't be able to afford it. I think when you have something that once it is created electronically and you never have to create again should not cost as much as something you have to keep re-creating to sell, like a car. Just my opinion. I honestly don't know if I will be able to upgrade, and considering how many other folks won't be able to I wonder if they will end up breaking even. Sometimes it's better to sell more for a little less than to try to sell a few for a lot. Look at some of the price drops in the business, Maya being a prime example. Just a thought. Marque