Maveris wrote: >Poser4 Full (U.S.A) $219 >Poser4 Full (Italy) $360 about +65% > >LightWave 7.5 Full (U.S.A.) $1.595 >LightWave 7.5 Full (Italy) $2.129 about +33% Thanks Maveris for finding and publishing that info. So... my memory was more forgiving than the fact about Poser 4. It was much less than $300 in the States. And the price difference was not distant from the (hideous) record of Propack. There is evidently something very bad for customers with the way Poser has been resold in Europe so far. Recently I have seen and compared the resale prices of other popular items such as Bryce 5 and Vue 4... Bryce 5 is higher in EU than in the US, but not even comparable to the stellar recharge imposed on Pro Pack... About Vue 4: it is very much fairly sold in the US. So really distribution is a company's choice. CL is free of keeping with exclusive distributors (I hope they won't), but if they do, they can not expect their customers to follow. One concrete example: should I personally see once again, that to upgrade my Poser 4 to Poser 5, I'll have to spend 70% or 75% more than a US Poser user, I will take this VERY bad. You can have it for granted. Because it would be beyond my affordable price limit, and because I would see in that the repeated abuse. And if a company chooses distributor's money AGAINST user's money, why as an user would I feel like buying from that company? One answer might be: because Poser is in a de facto monopoly situation, for lack of competitors: Poser is a one of a kind product, which owns the 100% share of the potential market. True, but you know something? My Poser 4 still works perfectly. If instead of accepting being taken by the throat with a +70% price recharge, all European users would just sit on the river's bank and wait... About the "poser-line price"... have you used your pocket calculators? I just did use mine. Wanna know how much in percentage has price of Poser 5 increased compared to Poser 4? It has increased of the 250,68 % Is there anyone who still thinks that this is a price in the line of the Poser tradition?