I think maybe you're being too polite to the "idiots" who think it's cool or clever to hurl insults at people just because the free gift you gave them doesn't work exactly how they want. As I said once before in another thread the Free items are a gift from the creator to the rest of us & we should all be thankful that people take the time to do these things. Next time you want to hurl insults at the person who made your latest download just remember without these people we'd all be stuck with what came as standard with poser, nice tho they are they would be very limited without all the extras. Rob