Oh Carolly, thank you thank you thank you. Everyone thank you very much. I have been up all night in awe of the artwork here and the tools, and how kind and helpful everyone's been. I am going to become a regular, because I want so much to be good at this grins But thank you very much I will be referring to this info repeatedly Carolly, and Sharen and Baz... you've all helped me immensely, in just a short amount of time. Thank you :-)Now I have to go put these suggestions to work :-) I will be sure to post my first attempt at this figure so I can get some further pointers. I am as newbie as it gets tho, so don't expect picasso LOL Thanks again, Rob S.