Well now, jval, not to spawn any animosity, but maybe John at Corel wasn't speaking monosyllabically enough for you to understand. To restate, John said, "Corel has never released such information and likely will not release any information regarding any of its products that are in development until they reach the Beta stage." That means, NO, Brycetech's full of it. So, according to Corel, Brycetech is closing down his site based off of speculation only. I'm not involved with the politics, I don't care either way myself, only that controversy based off of speculation is an attention getting device more than anything. "There's nothing more exhilarating than pointing out the shortcomings of others.", to quote Randall from Clerks...