Thank you Little Dragon and thank you Ron Knights, I am bookmarking all these sites and will make good use of every piece of information. Thank you for your help. The tutorials are great Ron, thank you. I have started reading the manual as Baz suggested, and hey I'm making progress I have a sound grasp on the lighting techniques grins Thank you so much everyone. I am on cloud 9, thanks to you all and know that over time I will need all the help I can get :-) Your assistance is always appreciated. Rob S.